Comments on: Found: Click Fraud Paid Clickers – Chat With Them If You’d Like http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/ Resources and hype-free conversation for webentrepreneurs interested in making money online. Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:57:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: David http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-28210 David Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:13:25 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-28210 I am part of a forum that is removing sites off the regular section of posts and moved them into the Closed/Scam section of the paid to read sites. We have removed a lot of cheating click fraud sites and 0-Iframes programs to to that section and any other programs that are scamming. This is more than any other forum would do. It is a slow progress, and I have opened some eyes with all the news articles, and people commented that they did not realized that what they were doing was illegal. Some of them are mods. I have been very busy cleaning up these types of programs and maybe it is a start for all the forums involved to start doing the same by naming and shaming these programs. It will show all the members from that forum that this industry means business, and be turned around back into the right direction. I am part of a forum that is removing sites off the regular section of posts and moved them into the Closed/Scam section of the paid to read sites. We have removed a lot of cheating click fraud sites and 0-Iframes programs to to that section and any other programs that are scamming. This is more than any other forum would do. It is a slow progress, and I have opened some eyes with all the news articles, and people commented that they did not realized that what they were doing was illegal. Some of them are mods. I have been very busy cleaning up these types of programs and maybe it is a start for all the forums involved to start doing the same by naming and shaming these programs. It will show all the members from that forum that this industry means business, and be turned around back into the right direction.

]]> By: Terry http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-21149 Terry Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:28:20 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-21149 Thanks for your comment Scott :). Actually on my end it doesn't matter how many forum posts are from Team Evil vs. Team Good. All I'm focused on is the amount of people accepting payment to click on ppc ads. And that Google, Yahoo! and ppc ads are widely available to be clicked by paid clickers. Google, Yahoo and the rest should never have allowed their ads to be displayed in those programs to begin with. And shame on them for letting things get this far. Scott I noticed a comment in one of those threads that there were just 34 programs that didn't advertise ppc results/ads--out of several hundred programs! That's not impressive. Get Paid To Read, Get Paid To Search, doesn't matter. "Get Paid To" has no business displaying any ads from the ppc industry. Goog, yahoo, etc., need to haul ass and get the ads of their paying advertisers out of there. Thanks for your comment Scott :) .

Actually on my end it doesn’t matter how many forum posts are from Team Evil vs. Team Good.

All I’m focused on is the amount of people accepting payment to click on ppc ads. And that Google, Yahoo! and ppc ads are widely available to be clicked by paid clickers.

Google, Yahoo and the rest should never have allowed their ads to be displayed in those programs to begin with. And shame on them for letting things get this far.

Scott I noticed a comment in one of those threads that there were just 34 programs that didn’t advertise ppc results/ads–out of several hundred programs! That’s not impressive.

Get Paid To Read, Get Paid To Search, doesn’t matter. “Get Paid To” has no business displaying any ads from the ppc industry. Goog, yahoo, etc., need to haul ass and get the ads of their paying advertisers out of there.

]]> By: Scott http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-20879 Scott Thu, 28 Sep 2006 03:08:09 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-20879 I would like to make the comment. I have been a member of PTR for about 5 years now. I am only a member of Paid To READ sites not Paid to SEARCH sites and trust me if you are in this industry you definitely know the difference. I had to make a comment on your comments and quotes about our industry, why do you only show the evil side of a few idiots in our forum. You failed to mention I notice how they are almost immediately attacked for their actions of utilizing those Paid to SEARCH sites. You also forgot to mention how many many many discussions and debates we have on how to purge this industry of these cheaters. Of how we ourselves have inflicted bans on 0-Iframe sites on how many people spend endless amounts of their own time finding and exposing cheaters. We ourselves have been contacting search engines and letting them know of the click fraud sites. It is just a bit sad and a bit maddening that all PTR's a gettting a bad rap for this click fraud. Why not try and work with the honest PTR's to rid this industry of these sites instead of labeling all of us as bad or cheaters. In one ear and out the other I am sure but worth a try anyways. Most of us are on your side. I would like to make the comment. I have been a member of PTR for about 5 years now. I am only a member of Paid To READ sites not Paid to SEARCH sites and trust me if you are in this industry you definitely know the difference. I had to make a comment on your comments and quotes about our industry, why do you only show the evil side of a few idiots in our forum. You failed to mention I notice how they are almost immediately attacked for their actions of utilizing those Paid to SEARCH sites. You also forgot to mention how many many many discussions and debates we have on how to purge this industry of these cheaters. Of how we ourselves have inflicted bans on 0-Iframe sites on how many people spend endless amounts of their own time finding and exposing cheaters. We ourselves have been contacting search engines and letting them know of the click fraud sites.
It is just a bit sad and a bit maddening that all PTR’s a gettting a bad rap for this click fraud. Why not try and work with the honest PTR’s to rid this industry of these sites instead of labeling all of us as bad or cheaters. In one ear and out the other I am sure but worth a try anyways. Most of us are on your side.

]]> By: Terry http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-20711 Terry Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:02:14 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-20711 I think the kind of incentive traffic gptr offers is commonly looked at as empty clicks Suzanne and that was before the article on click fraud. I'm not a fan of it myself. But if your business has proven itself to be of some value to your advertisers and more than just empty clicks, I don't think an article is going to chase them away. Everyone's hungry for converting traffic (sales, signups, leads, etc.) and they won't be run off because of some article ;). I think the kind of incentive traffic gptr offers is commonly looked at as empty clicks Suzanne and that was before the article on click fraud. I’m not a fan of it myself.

But if your business has proven itself to be of some value to your advertisers and more than just empty clicks, I don’t think an article is going to chase them away.

Everyone’s hungry for converting traffic (sales, signups, leads, etc.) and they won’t be run off because of some article ;) .

]]> By: Suzanne http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-20385 Suzanne Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:53:24 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-20385 Yes Terry after some time managed to get back here. Real life gets the best of me at times. Although I was glad to see that newsweek picked up the article I was sad to see the light that it painted of PTR. There is a serious problem in PTR with click fraud and ptr but in my opinion the article focused on all sites and members and all incentive advertising was fraud which saddened me. Good news I found 800 and some blogs and articles on this. Perhaps something will be done now. It saddens me that I fell into an online business with so much fraud and deception and perhaps I am the eternal optimist beliving that some can make big changes. But after this article I am so disheartened I have considered shutting down my sites and finding a more reputable online venue. Yes Terry after some time managed to get back here. Real life gets the best of me at times. Although I was glad to see that newsweek picked up the article I was sad to see the light that it painted of PTR. There is a serious problem in PTR with click fraud and ptr but in my opinion the article focused on all sites and members and all incentive advertising was fraud which saddened me. Good news I found 800 and some blogs and articles on this. Perhaps something will be done now.

It saddens me that I fell into an online business with so much fraud and deception and perhaps I am the eternal optimist beliving that some can make big changes. But after this article I am so disheartened I have considered shutting down my sites and finding a more reputable online venue.

]]> By: Terry http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-19224 Terry Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:44:19 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-19224 Update: <a href="http://superaff.com/archives/2006/09/21/click-fraud-the-dark-side-of-advertising/" rel="nofollow">Cover Story on BusinessWeek</a> This click fraud scandal did indeed end up in mainstream news after all. Suzanne if you're still reading here, looks like BusinessWeek just picked up the story ;). Update:

Cover Story on BusinessWeek

This click fraud scandal did indeed end up in mainstream news after all. Suzanne if you’re still reading here, looks like BusinessWeek just picked up the story ;) .

]]> By: DiscussItOnline http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-11215 DiscussItOnline Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:40:21 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-11215 lol, thats just too funny. It's really quite sad though :( I just can't believe the things people will do to avoid some real work... lol, thats just too funny. It’s really quite sad though :( I just can’t believe the things people will do to avoid some real work…

]]> By: Suzanne http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-10721 Suzanne Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:48:19 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-10721 I am one of the program owners who has been trying to bring about some change as fruitless as it may seem. I cannot post links but to the forum and the other info would have to be shown to someone. If someone is interested I am more then willing to give them access to it. It is sad though as the forum you link to shows how open it is to blantantly cheat others and find it acceptable. I am one of the program owners who has been trying to bring about some change as fruitless as it may seem.

I cannot post links but to the forum and the other info would have to be shown to someone. If someone is interested I am more then willing to give them access to it.

It is sad though as the forum you link to shows how open it is to blantantly cheat others and find it acceptable.

]]> By: Terry http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-10718 Terry Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:16:10 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-10718 Just had a thought Suzanne. If you want to write up what you see going on, I can post it here as a blog post. Upload your proof on your domain if you'd like and link away. You can include your contact info and full article credit if you'd like. Not sure how much attention it will get, but it may catch someone's eye who can do something about it. Just had a thought Suzanne. If you want to write up what you see going on, I can post it here as a blog post. Upload your proof on your domain if you’d like and link away. You can include your contact info and full article credit if you’d like.

Not sure how much attention it will get, but it may catch someone’s eye who can do something about it.

]]> By: Terry http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/comment-page-1/#comment-10717 Terry Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:08:46 +0000 http://superaff.com/archives/2006/07/17/found-click-fraud-paid-clickers-chat-with-them-if-youd-like/#comment-10717 <blockquote>how do you fight something no one seems to care about?</blockquote> That's probably what will kill it all in the end Suzanne. Have you tried contacting <a href="http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/" rel="nofollow">Anderson Cooper on CNN</a>? I love that guy! :lol: <blockquote>has made the PTR industry a laughing joke to most who might even consider it.</blockquote> True. And the forum linked to above doesn't help either. It's <strong>crazy</strong> what people will do for a penny, and it's all laid out for everyone to see. I take it you're one of the program owners?

how do you fight something no one seems to care about?

That’s probably what will kill it all in the end Suzanne.

Have you tried contacting Anderson Cooper on CNN? I love that guy! :lol:

has made the PTR industry a laughing joke to most who might even consider it.

True. And the forum linked to above doesn’t help either. It’s crazy what people will do for a penny, and it’s all laid out for everyone to see.

I take it you’re one of the program owners?

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