Interested in reaching deep down into the bowels of the underground click fraud gangs? Wanna meet and hang out with who’s being paid to click on all those parked domain page ads and paid search engine results?
Take a look at what I’ve been tipped off on:
This thread is such a sad, pathetic, twisted story. I’ll explain it as briefly as I can and as best as I can understand it.
- Two get paid clicking programs are run by one owner. These programs are team1players.com and agroupeffort.net. The OP of the thread is asking general questions about them, basically what the referral rates/percentages are as a member.
- These two programs operated on an owner/member profit split. Whatever the earnings accumulated are, the owner takes a cut and then the rest divvied up among the members.
- A member of these two programs was actually ‘spying’ and reporting all paid search ads and incentivized advertisements that went to domain parking pages and other ppc engines. He ended up inadvertently reporting the program owner to himself. It’s very amusing and confusing :P.
- The thread started as a general query that imploded into paid clicker infighting as to whether or not it was legal or moral to accept payment for clicking and performing searches on ppc ads.
Some quotes (the thread is a freaking 36 pages already):
Many members have requested to know what qualifies as a valid search So I have written this short page to tell you.
For a search to qualify as valid these 2 steps must be followed:
1) Click a search term, word or phrase on the portal or parking page and let the results page fully load.
On portals with search boxes you may also enter a search term, word or phrase of your own.
2) click a result and let the page fully load.
You may click up to 3 results from one search without going over search limits. After following these 2 steps you have completed a valid search.
Searching is fully voluntary. Nobody can beg, ask, or make you search. Searching is fully voluntary.
I have only provided this page for people who do not understand what a valid search is.
*Remember, members know they only make money if there’s money in the pot to split. The more valid searches that are made, the more money members split. These how-to-search instructions are mighty helpful, aren’t they.
Yeah, as the membership Rises at a profit sharing site, the share lowers, that’s how they go.
In this light, the ‘forced search’ site, is a superior variation of the basic model.
ptr is Extremely well suited to ripping off ppc/cpc. Megabucks in it too…
You do realize that someone up the click fraud line had money stolen from them by the click fraud system set up in these two programs in order to pay you don’t you? Just because you got paid from the proceeds of theft doesn’t make it right because someone DID get ripped off in order to pay you. $190 worth of valid searches for the sake of searching had to come out of someone’s pocket in order to pay you right? Do you even care who’s pockets that money was taken from? Or is it ok as long as it went into yours?
Grumpy, he’s Sending You Parked Domain Ads, with Google adsense on them, or with Yahoo Search Marketing Ads on them, lol.
The Very ACT of Sending Them, is Fraud!
The only reason it lasts as long as it Does, is because Goog and Yahoo have to Verify the Fraud, via the Parking Companies where their ads are displayed on. So it takes some time for it all to get Kanned.
He’s Lost Parked.com and Trafficz.com so we’re getting there, lol.
It is fraud because he is sending you Parked Domain ads fed by google or yahoo at a ptr site.
I do not see what all this crap is about. Wah I have to make a search *sniffles* grow the hell up ######. That’s what we get paid to do. If you don’t search, you get fractions of pennies. Who wants that?
Poor Yahoo and Google. Google stock is only selling for $400 a share. Isn’t that just a crying shame
Talks about 0iframes and auto searching in the background:
0 iframes now contain over 100 auto searches where they used to contain only two or three. Ever wonder why this is happening? It’s crumbling fast, they’re getting caught faster, the bids are drying up faster.
did a google search on click fraud and found this:
Google CEO on click fraud: ‘let it happen’
*Hey google says it’s ok, we’re good to go!
Let’s steal from the people with a lot of money, not ourselves.
*Can you believe it??? 😛
This discussion is in a thread regarding two paid programs, but there are hundreds of these kinds of programs paying thousands of people to click on search ads. Sure they’re eventually shut down, but not after raking in some big cha-ching. It’s my understanding that more and more are moving underground to avoid this kind of attention.
Dig around that forum if you’re bored. All kinds of activities being participated in and discussed. Alexa ranking jimmying, scripted Autosearching, Pyramids, hyips, ponzis, and the always juicy click fraud mania :P.
The perfect quote to end with, happens to be from a moderator of the forum:
Very true. That is what I learned about advertising as well. Normal company’s do get their “win” out of advertising by getting KNOWN by repeated exposure – so that a customer remembers them if they need a product…or want to purchase a product/service. And when I become a member at a PTR site, I opt in for Paid To Read = PTR. I read the email, click on the link and get credited. Done.
Let me put it this way. Normal company’s trying to SELL a product and getting ripped off by PTR searches, I bet they will change the way of advertising immediately. If they don’t do that…jeez…what do they do then in business? The people buying keywords for exposure and making their win other then selling a product or a service…to be honest I don’t feel that sorry for them. They are milking the system just as the others do in the chain. And some sites which do actually sell something, and stay in the system, I have the feeling these Viagra – Insurances – Medication…whatsoever make still enough money to make it worth. Probably less these days.
Did you know as an advertiser you could stop paying Google or Yahoo! $1, $2, $5, $25 a click for exposure and simply go directly to these incentivized advertising ‘businesses‘ and just pay a buck or two for thousands of exposures. So-Silly ;).