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		<title>By: You Realize As An Affiliate You&#8217;re Bare Naked Right?</title>
		<link>http://superaff.com/archives/2005/07/09/affiliate-lists-and-potential-stalking-alert/comment-page-1/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>You Realize As An Affiliate You&#8217;re Bare Naked Right?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lots of chatter going on, but this bitch-slapped us in the face last year when the Affiliate List hit airtime (quote from link): What Iâ€™m most concerned about, because now this part *does* affect me, is the fact that affiliate managers, affiliate network VPs and employees, contractors, programmers, etc., have the opportunity to cull and gather all my information. And sell it. Or move on to copy my work and build for themselves. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lots of chatter going on, but this bitch-slapped us in the face last year when the Affiliate List hit airtime (quote from link): What Iâ€™m most concerned about, because now this part *does* affect me, is the fact that affiliate managers, affiliate network VPs and employees, contractors, programmers, etc., have the opportunity to cull and gather all my information. And sell it. Or move on to copy my work and build for themselves. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Publisher Notice from Commission Junction</title>
		<link>http://superaff.com/archives/2005/07/09/affiliate-lists-and-potential-stalking-alert/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Publisher Notice from Commission Junction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] erformance to Advertisers. 	Big whoop. We discovered this common practise with the recent (affiliate list) fiasco didn&#8217;t we? All our info and st [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] erformance to Advertisers. 	Big whoop. We discovered this common practise with the recent (affiliate list) fiasco didn&#8217;t we? All our info and st [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://superaff.com/archives/2005/07/09/affiliate-lists-and-potential-stalking-alert/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revenews.com/wayneporter/archives/000817.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Great Controversy Over Lists&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;3) Networks and consultants have been trading, or offering lists of affiliates for years and years. Complete with personal contact information. Rumor has it that many managers have passed or swapped these lists around.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well there we have it. MPeters my guess is that you&#039;re not going to hear any affiliate manager or network stand up against this. Apparently it&#039;s a common industry practice for affiliate information to be flipped around like pancakes. 

I recommend everyone read the above article. I found it very forthright and something every affiliate needs to know. I may not have *liked* the message, but I appreciate the information.

One positive about all this - I&#039;m a lot less naive than I was yesterday! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.revenews.com/wayneporter/archives/000817.html" rel="nofollow">The Great Controversy Over Lists</a></p>
<blockquote><p>3) Networks and consultants have been trading, or offering lists of affiliates for years and years. Complete with personal contact information. Rumor has it that many managers have passed or swapped these lists around.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well there we have it. MPeters my guess is that you&#8217;re not going to hear any affiliate manager or network stand up against this. Apparently it&#8217;s a common industry practice for affiliate information to be flipped around like pancakes. </p>
<p>I recommend everyone read the above article. I found it very forthright and something every affiliate needs to know. I may not have *liked* the message, but I appreciate the information.</p>
<p>One positive about all this &#8211; I&#8217;m a lot less naive than I was yesterday!</p>
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		<title>By: disgusted</title>
		<link>http://superaff.com/archives/2005/07/09/affiliate-lists-and-potential-stalking-alert/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>disgusted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Perfomics and Linkshare gave Molander access to this information with no protection whatsoever, and they have privacy statements on their web sites, and they have done nothing to stop him from publishing private information, they are IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW IN CALIFORNIA, MARYLAND, AND NEW YORK at the very least.

Linkshare and Performics had better sue him or they will be sued.

At the very least, they are liable under financial privacy laws AND stalking laws in California.  If I were a lawyer for Performics or Linkshare, or even Afftrack, I&#039;d start studying California law around these issues.  Y&#039;all are exposed!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Perfomics and Linkshare gave Molander access to this information with no protection whatsoever, and they have privacy statements on their web sites, and they have done nothing to stop him from publishing private information, they are IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW IN CALIFORNIA, MARYLAND, AND NEW YORK at the very least.</p>
<p>Linkshare and Performics had better sue him or they will be sued.</p>
<p>At the very least, they are liable under financial privacy laws AND stalking laws in California.  If I were a lawyer for Performics or Linkshare, or even Afftrack, I&#8217;d start studying California law around these issues.  Y&#8217;all are exposed!</p>
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		<title>By: MPeters</title>
		<link>http://superaff.com/archives/2005/07/09/affiliate-lists-and-potential-stalking-alert/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>MPeters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been making my own list. A list of people NOT TO WORK WITH EVER. I&#039;m very upset about one person in particular supporting this. They&#039;ve been one of my aff managers and it sickens me to think of the data they have on me and their obvious blase &#039;tude about protecting affiliate information. Do I ever feel sorry for the affiliates that were put out in prime time like this. All that hard work made public. The garbage pile just gets stacked higher and higher in AM. The people that were supposed to be on my side working with me really are on their own damn side. I&#039;m looking at things outside AM too Terry. There&#039;s just so much grease a person can tolerate. I&#039;m also disappointed in the higher profile affiliate managers and companies that aren&#039;t coming forward and condemning this. I have to wonder what they&#039;re up to and planning with their affiliate data. I&#039;m pizzed about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been making my own list. A list of people NOT TO WORK WITH EVER. I&#8217;m very upset about one person in particular supporting this. They&#8217;ve been one of my aff managers and it sickens me to think of the data they have on me and their obvious blase &#8216;tude about protecting affiliate information. Do I ever feel sorry for the affiliates that were put out in prime time like this. All that hard work made public. The garbage pile just gets stacked higher and higher in AM. The people that were supposed to be on my side working with me really are on their own damn side. I&#8217;m looking at things outside AM too Terry. There&#8217;s just so much grease a person can tolerate. I&#8217;m also disappointed in the higher profile affiliate managers and companies that aren&#8217;t coming forward and condemning this. I have to wonder what they&#8217;re up to and planning with their affiliate data. I&#8217;m pizzed about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Todd.

An Affiliate Union would destroy the world as we know it! :lol: j/k, but I do agree that this list is only the start. I think a precedent has now been set and that any pretense of privacy is gone. No turning back as that door has been opened.

I think the difference between selling contact information (as you mentioned above) is that it&#039;s just - contact info. It doesn&#039;t flag people as &#039;super affs&#039;, their earning power and how they&#039;re doing it (websites listed). 

What&#039;s unique about the web is that any mickey mouse can come along and copy what we&#039;ve built. If we can&#039;t trust the people we&#039;re working with to respect our need for privacy and discretion, and at the very least - keep our websites private - who the hell can we trust?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Todd.</p>
<p>An Affiliate Union would destroy the world as we know it! <img src='http://superaff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  j/k, but I do agree that this list is only the start. I think a precedent has now been set and that any pretense of privacy is gone. No turning back as that door has been opened.</p>
<p>I think the difference between selling contact information (as you mentioned above) is that it&#8217;s just &#8211; contact info. It doesn&#8217;t flag people as &#8217;super affs&#8217;, their earning power and how they&#8217;re doing it (websites listed). </p>
<p>What&#8217;s unique about the web is that any mickey mouse can come along and copy what we&#8217;ve built. If we can&#8217;t trust the people we&#8217;re working with to respect our need for privacy and discretion, and at the very least &#8211; keep our websites private &#8211; who the hell can we trust?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a passing thought as I&#039;m researching my monday morning tool list (on PR tools)...There are a whole BUNCH of places that sell the contact information from a database for journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a passing thought as I&#8217;m researching my monday morning tool list (on PR tools)&#8230;There are a whole BUNCH of places that sell the contact information from a database for journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://superaff.com/archives/2005/07/09/affiliate-lists-and-potential-stalking-alert/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff Terry.  Aff stuff is fairly shady from what I&#039;ve seen, but those that were in it early DO know the web inside and out.  I guess it makes sense from  an AM perspective that they want to recruit the best affiliates...I would imagine this is only the tip of the iceberg on this sort of thing unless the equivalent of an &quot;affiliate union&quot; is created, which could only help serve to make things MORE shady;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff Terry.  Aff stuff is fairly shady from what I&#8217;ve seen, but those that were in it early DO know the web inside and out.  I guess it makes sense from  an AM perspective that they want to recruit the best affiliates&#8230;I would imagine this is only the tip of the iceberg on this sort of thing unless the equivalent of an &#8220;affiliate union&#8221; is created, which could only help serve to make things MORE shady;)</p>
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